S2 EP8: The Women Who Make CRIMINAL

Phoebe Judge and Lauren Spohrer talk podcasts and female entrepreneurship.

CRIMINAL was a mega-hit long before the genre of true-crime took off in podcasting. On this episode, co-creators Phoebe Judge and Lauren Spohrer tell Manoush and Jen about quitting their stable public radio jobs to start a company (sound familiar?), managing each other's quirks, and saying 'no' to the many business opportunities that come their way. This duo has great advice for anyone trying to manage a partnership, balance creativity with bill paying, or just staying true to one's weirdo self.

CRIMINAL and ZigZag are members of Radiotopia, the podcast collective that just kicked off its annual fundraiser. Please consider donating to keep these shows going.

GO DEEPER:

A deep dive into the messy relationship between true crime podcasts and justice. How Phoebe and Lauren get it done from Raleigh's The News & Observer. The New Yorker article on the new golden age of podcast storytelling. Guy Raz's mega-entrepreneur podcast in the New York Times. The Future of Voice and the Implications for News. It's a bear market for some podcast shops. More acronyms: PRX (of which Radiotopia is a branch) merges with PRI (think The World). Help someone discover the joy of listening by sharing Gretchen Rubin's free Gift of Podcast instructions. Btw, the SEC has a new guide to ICOs. And Crypto is crashing.

ILLUSTRATION:

Accurat counted every, literally, every minute of every episode of every Radiotopia podcast. This is the stunning result...

CREDITS:

Thalia Beaty, Producer

David Herman, Audio Engineer and Composer

Dan Dzula, Audio Engineer

ZigZag comes from Stable Genius Productions, in partnership with Civil. We are proud members of Radiotopia, from PRX.